Really lovely pair of sticks which I buy time and time again. As stated in the title however these are not for those who drum a little heavier than others. Their build is quite delicate but this however makes them nice and light and agile, perfect for playing slower paced tracks and absolutely brilliant for adding or flourishing definition in cymbals, particularly the ride cymbal or intricate Hi-Hat work. As a specialty stick pair I find them great and always like to have a pair in the event that I need them for a similar venture as stated above. You cannot go wrong with Vader in my opinion.