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In the live setting my Paiste PST5 20 rock ride works fine but noticed some un-musical overtones when recording. You can make inexpensive drums sound good, unfortunately not so with cymbals (or whatever you want to call them). looking for the Pro sound the 900 series price/performance ratio is too good too miss. The ping is defined the bell loud and clean with the wash just amazing. It really is in and of itself a fine instrument. When they become available buy before stock runs out! They really are that good.