Well! I bought them based on some videos and mostly on their price. Have to say I'm surprised how crisp, clear and articulated they sound. Have recorded 3 albums now with them and they fit all kinds of rock/metal, according to how you hit them. They have quite a different feel when you're handling them, kinda like if they're made of plastic, but that goes when you set and play them. Just have to say I don't like how they sound if they're too loose but I think that is more a matter of taste and preference. already bought two rides and two crashes after buying these, and these are the only cymblas I have that did't start breaking. Totally recommend.