These are some of the trashiest chinas around and fit perfectly in a heavy/rock music setting. The sound is great for the price, but the downside is the fact that due to manufacturing quality it's nigh impossible not to break the cymbal within a year if used regularly. Sometimes you get lucky and the sound is still good after breaking, but the once the cracks are there, they will extend further quite quickly. So at least in my experience, once you break it, you keep going back and forth between a good and a bad sound. Bad in this case being too thin, not trashy enough and too quiet. There's quite a lot of variation between each cymbal too, I've had seven or eight of these (around 20 if you count 14" and 16" models too) and no two sound exactly alike. None of them have been drastically outside the general sound characteristics either, but slight variations of the trashy and quite piercing profile in general.