I'm a big Doepfer fan, but this product is not good. I bought these cables to use them with my modular, and immediately I noticed that they look a bit too thin and not very well made, but that's minor. The main problem is that they keep the deformations done to them. So, also because of the way they are packed, they are now very curly and I think they will stay like that. Easily the worst cable on my rig.